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KITTO’s from SOUTH AFRICA                SAF

 

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Of PORTSEA, Ham

 

Second marriage of Joseph Nathaniel KITTO - SAF

(1b) Joseph Nathaniel KITTO b. 1818 Eng. (of Porsea Hampshire) second m. 3 Dec 1855 Fauresmith, SAF. Second m/to   biog: widowed teacher at 2nd marriage in 1855

Martha Elizabeth VAN SCHALKWYK b.1823

1.

Joseph Nathaniel James KITTO b. 20 Jan 1857 & bp.

 

 

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Third marriage of Joseph Nathaniel KITTO - SAF

(1c) Joseph Nathaniel KITTO b. 1818 Eng. (of Porsea Hampshire) Third m. 27 Aug 1857 Colesburg, SAF. m. 14 Apr 1879 Dutch Reformed Church, Bethulie, Free State, SAF. biog: widowed aged 62 of Kapiteinskraal Bethulie, SAF in 1879    m/to

Alida Johanna Margaretha Sophia OBERHOLZER b. c1850 (single aged 29 of Broekpoort Bethulie, SAF)

 

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Of PERRANZABULOE family                                    of NORTH CAPE, SAF

(2) William KITTO b. 1828 Rose & bp. 22 Jun 1828 Parish Church, Perranzabuloe, Con, Eng. (s/o Richard KITTO & Sally BICE, OPRs) m. 18 Feb 1854 Perranzabuloe, Con, Eng. (Q1 1854 #5c/289 Truro) (son of Richard, carrier) (wit: William KENT, Richard TRENNARY) d. 1907  biog: lead miner (14) at home in 1841, lead miner (22) at home in 1851, bac, mine agent (25) of Rose 1854, lead mining agent (52) at Foxdale House, Patrick, IOM in 1881, manager of Foxdale Mines in 1882 [Brown's Directory in 1881/2]

Grace b. 1833 Perranzabuloe, Con, Eng. d. 29 Nov 1893 Port Nolloth, North Cape, South Africa. (w/o Wm KITTO, NA SAF) bd. Okiep Cemetery, North Cape, SAF, aged 61 years

 

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William Frank KITTO b. 1 May 1880 Foxdale, IOM. d. Oct 1942 O'Kiep, Northern Cape, South Africa. (NA SAF) bd. Okiep Cemetery, Nth Cape, SAF. biog: estate papers 1942 Cape Town, SAF.

 

 

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From REDRUTH, CON

Thomas Collingwood KITTO b. c1850’s Con, Eng. biog: 1880 mineralogical report on Blaauwbank (Bluebank) Goldfields for South African Government, account paid 1881

A probable family member

Charles Middleton Kitto BAWDEN event 1907 Transvaal, SAF

 

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From CUMBERLAND                             in PIETERMARITZBURG SAF

 

(1) William KITTO b. 1859 Callington, (likely William Henry of Liskeard 1859 or 1860) Con. Eng. biog: iron miner, unmarried border in Lamlugh (#48/33) in 1881 m. likely 1882 Whitehaven, Cul, Eng. (Q3 1882 #10b/892 Whitehaven).   m/to

USHER (?? LEISTER Sarah Ann) b. cc1859 Eng.

(William m/to Sarah Ann LEISTER (in freeBMD) b. 1865 Hereford d/o William & Harriet LEISTER in 1881 census)

 

1.

William George KITTO b. 1883 Whitehaven, Cul, Eng. (s/o KITTO & USHER in GRO Q2 1883 #10b/612a Whitehaven) m. 1905 Whitehaven, Cul, Eng. (Q1 1905 #10b/923 Whitehaven) d. 1959 Pietermaritzburg, SAF. (deceased estate #44/59 SAF)    m/to

Jane PASCOE b. cc1883 Cul, Eng. d. 1958 Pietermaritzburg, SAF. (deceased estate #44/59 SAF)

 

 

Possibly this same William

William KITTO b.  d. 1907 Cape Town, SAF. (Death notice 1907, liquidations 1908, 1909) biog: likely also same William claimed for outstanding wages 1905 Cape Town, SAF. SAF, illiquid case, restitution of conjugal rights

 

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From GWENNAP, CON

(1) Edward John KITTO b. 1867 St Day, Con, Eng. (s/o Edwin KITTO & Jane BARNETT, freeBMD & Q1 1867 #5c/243 Redruth), m. 1886 Con, Eng. (Q3 1886 #5c/204 Truro) d. 1940 Transvaal, SAF. biog: copper miner (12) at home in 1881  m/to

Elizabeth CHIVELL b. 1867 Eng. d. 1944 Transvaal, SAF (surviving her spouse in 1940) biog: wife/head (25) in St Agnes in 1891, wife/head (34) in Gwennap in 1901

 

1.

Edward Henry KITTO b. 1888 St Agnes, Con, Eng. biog: son (2) in 1891, son (12) in 1901

 

2.

Margaret Chivelle KITTO b. 1890 Con, Eng. (Q1 1890 #5c/130 Truro) d. 1934 Transvaal, South Africa. (deceased SAF) biog: dau (11) in 1901     m/to

William George TAYLOR b. cc1890 Eng. (surviving spouse 1934 South Africa) died as George William TAYLOR 1961 Pietermaritzburg, SAF, (surviving spouse Emmy Louisa TAYLOR, previous spouse Madge Kitto TAYLOR died 1932/1933)

 

3.

Elizabeth Jane KITTO b. 1892 Con, Eng. (Q3 1892 #5c/129 Truro) biog: dau (8) in 1901

 

4.

William Richard KITTO b. 1893 Con, Eng. (Q3 1893 #5c/182 Truro) d. 1975 Transvaal, SAF, biog: son (7) in 1901

Florence Marion b. cc1893 Eng. (surviving her spouse in 1976 SAF)

 

 

A.

Derrick KITTO b. 1930 SAF. d. 2000 SAF. 

m/to Catherine b. cc1930.

… a. Stephen Michael KITTO b. 1968 SAF.

 

 

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From CAMBORNE, CON

(1) Thomas Charles KITTO b. 1867 Con, Eng. (s/o KITTO & DRYDEN in GRO Q4 1867 #5c/233 Redruth) & bp. 26 Jan 1868 St Day, Redruth, Con, Eng. (s/o William(?) & Mary Ann, miner of Little Beside in OPR-OPC, baptized same day as his brother William) m. 1895 Con, Eng. (as Thomas Arthur C KITTO - Q3 1895 #5c/868 Redruth) d. 9 Feb 1912 Melbourne, Vic (s/o Thomas Charles & Mary DRYDEN, #2531/1912 Melb E) aged 44 years, Probate “A” granted 23 May 1912 (#124/528 Vic) biog: scholar, g/s with mother (3) at in laws in 1871, away (13) at Hart House School in 1881, miner (44) of Korumburra, Vic in 1912    m/to

Lilly COCKS b. 1870 Camborne, Con, Eng. (d/o William Robert COCK & Jane Maria of Camborne) biog: married dau (30) in Beacon in Camborne in 1901

Electoral Rolls: - Thomas & Mary, miner & hd in Korumburra, Vic in 1909, Mary alone, shopkeeper, in Korumburra, Vic in 1914

Lilly HARVEY or COCKS (both on FreeBMD) b. cc1867 Con, Eng.

 

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James Arthur Hedley KITTO b. 1896 Con, Eng. (s/o KITTO & COCKS in GRO Q4 1896 #5c/203 Redruth) m. 1927 Nottingham, Ntt, Eng. (Q3 1927 #7b/792 Nottingham) d. 1972 Transvaal, South Africa.

Margaret Alice ROBINSON b. cc1896 Eng. (surviving spouse 1972 South Africa)

 

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William Stuart KITTO b. 1899 Con, Eng. (Q1 1899 #5c/195 Redruth) d. 1960 SAF 

Ethel Maul TUPPER b. cc1899, surviving her spouse in 1960 SAF

 

3.

Doris KITTO b. c1900 Eng.

(possibly) Doris Elsie Carthew KITTO b. (surviving spouse 1967) SAF    m/to

William Joseph GARVIE b. Johannesburg, SAF d. 1967 Pietermaritzburg, SAF.

 

(Family of Val MAIDEN < val@amaiden.freeserve.co.uk > KITTO forum 5 Mar 2001)

Thomas Kitto, his wife Lily and children Hedley, William Stuart and Doris emigrated from Camborne, Cornwall to Krugersdorp, South Africa c. 1905. Later found in Langlaagte Village nr Johannesburg.

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From GERMOE, CON

(1) Benjamin Thomas KITTO b. 1869 Breage, Con, Eng. (s/o KITTO & THOMAS in GRO Q1 1869 #5c/238 Helston) (s/o James KITTO (1841) & Lavinia THOMAS of Germoe) m. 1894 Con, Eng. (Q4 1894 #5c/328 Helston) d. 10 Feb 1905 Mayfair, Transvaal, South Africa, aged 36 years, biog: scholar (12) in 1881, not in Breage in 1891 census.   m/to

Ellen Davies EUSTACE b. cc1869 Con, Eng. (surviving her spouse in 1905 SAF)

 

1.

Pauline Corin KITTO b. 1895 Con, Eng. (d/o KITTO & EUSTICE in GRO Q4 1895 #5c/193 Helston) & bp. 24 Nov 1895 of Greenbamk in Germoe, Con, Eng. (d/o Benjamin Thomas KITTO miner & Ellen Davies EUSTICE, #6/1 OPR online) m. c1890's SAF, d. 2 Jun 1937 SAF.   m/to

John Henry KELYNACK b. (surviving his spouse in 1937 SAF)

 

2.

Winnifred Eustice KITTO b. 26 Nov 1896 Con, Eng. (d/o KITTO & EUSTICE in GRO Q1 1897 #5c/175 Helston) & bp. 22 Feb 1897 of Greenbamk in Germoe, Con, Eng. (d/o Benjamin Thomas KITTO miner & Ellen Davies EUSTICE, #13/2 OPR online) m. 1920's SAF, d. SAF.  m/to

Thomas Henry GREGOR b. c1890's d. 1964 Transvaal, SAF (survived by spouse in 1964)

 

 

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From LONDON DD

(1) Walter William Murray KITTO b. 1 Apr 1869 Lon, Eng. (Q2 1869 #1c/639 Poplar) (s/o John Fenwick KITTO, Prependary (1837) & Elizabeth SYMON of London family) m. 21 Apr 1897 St Mary's Collegiate Church, Port Elizabeth, SAF. d. 29 Jul 1922 Cape Town, SAF. (Estate papers 1922/1923 SAF, liquidation papers 1929 NA SAF) biog: M Inst C.E.

Jessie PERRINS b. 11 Mar 1869 Mdx, Eng. d. 12 Jan 1950 biog: a Jessie KITTO event 1921 Cape Town, SAF, illiquid case recovery of inheritance estate of late George Richard PERRINS. (Estate Papers NA SAF) - five children in South Africa

 

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Jessie Winnifred (Winsome) KITTO b. 16 Mar 1903 SAF. d. 24 Jan 1985 Port Elizabeth, SAF.

 

2.

John Leonard KITTO b. guessing c1905 SAF. & d. c1910 SAF. aged 4 ½ years

 

3.

Walter Harold KITTO b. 2 Mar 1911 Netrecht, SAF. m. 9 Oct 1937 Bloemfontein SAF. biog: M.Sc. chemistry,    m/to

Iris Eleanor CAMPBELL b. 16 Oct 1910 biog: BA.

 

 

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Joan Rosemary KITTO b. 1942 SAF. m. 1966 Salisbury, Rhodesia, Biog: BA.    m/to

Richard John WALTON b. 1943, biog: electrical engineering

 

 

B.

Margaret Winnifred KITTO b. 1944 SAF. m 1969 Salisbury, Rhodesia. biog: BSc   m/to

Brian PURCHASE b. 1943 biog: Dr Phys Sc

a. Susan Elizabeth PURCHASE b. 1972

b. Carol Anne PURCHASE b. 1974

 

 

C.

Alison Jessie KITTO (twin) b. 1946 SAF. m. 1976 Salisbury, Rhodesia. biog: BA.    m/to

Christopher Geoffrey HORSEFAL b. 1947 SAF. M.b.Chb (medicine)

 

 

D.

Sheila Mary KITTO (twin) b. 1946 SAF. m. 1970 Salisbury, Rhodesia. biog: teacher    m/to

Carl SCHEPPENING b. 1943 SAF. biog: BCom. LLB

 

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Phil Hudson KITTO (twin) b. 2 Jul 1913 Pietersburg, SAF. m. 24 Jan 1942 St Alden's Anglican Church, Yeoville, Johannesburg, SAF. d. Oct 1995 Florida, Transvaal, SAF.m/to

Marjorie Beryl GATLAND b. 10 Feb 1913 (d/o Frederick Charles GATLAND (Ssx) & wife, ref: Geni online)

 

 

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Jean Winsome KITTO b. 18 Feb 1943 Johannesburg, SAF. m. 16 Jul 1965 Johannesburg, SAF. d. 8 Dec 2000 Durban, SAF. biog: BSc    m/to

Frank Eric RICHARDSON b. 1939 Wisbech, UK. (s/o Robert & Rhoda CRAWSHAW) biog: BSc Hons Agronomy

a. Bruce Michael RICHARDSON b. 1970 Durban, SAF. m. 1999 Drakensberg, SAF.

m/to Tracey Ann HENEGAN b. 1971 Germiston, SAF.

b. Peter Brian RICHARDSON b. 1975 Durban, SAF.

 

 

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Pat Claire KITTO b. 1948 SAF. m. 1969 St Gabriels, Florida, Transvaal, SAF.    m/to

John Alan TUNNELL b. 1945 SAF.

a. Kevin John TUNNELL b. 1971 SAF.

b. Janice Robyn TUNNELL b. 1972 SAF.

c. Peta Jean TUNNELL b. 1974 SAF.

 

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Geoffrey Fenwick KITTO (twin) b. 2 Jul 1913 Pietersburg, SAF. First m. 2 Jul 1940 Johannesburg, SAF. biog: B Sc, civil engineer    m1/to

Ann Eileen KERR b. 12 May 1900 d. 8 Aug 1976

 

 

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Ann KITTO b. 1941 Pretoria, SAF. m. 1964 Cape Town, SAF. m/to

Hans Frans VOLPERT b. 1940 Germany

a. Karin Ann VOLPERT b. 1966 Johannesburg, SAF.

b. Curt Hans VOLPERT b. 1969 Cape Town, SAF.

c. Lara Elizabeth VOLPERT b. 1973 Cape Town, SAF.

 

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Second marriage of Geoffrey Fenwick KITTO

Geoffrey Fenwick KITTO (twin) b. 2 Jul 1913 Pietersburg, SAF. Second m. 15 Oct 1977 Newlands, Cape Town, SAF. m/to

Joanna (Hannie) VAN GREUNEN b. 16 Jul 1913 d. 21 Jun 1978

 

 

 

 

Third marriage of Geoffrey Fenwick KITTO

Geoffrey Fenwick KITTO (twin) b. 2 Jul 1913 Pietersburg, SAF. m. 24 Nov 1984 Newlands, Cape Town, SAF. to

Magdalena STALLEBRASS b. cc1913

 

(Family links Tracey RICHARDSON < tracey.richardson@bti.co.uk >

 

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Of PORTHLEVEN family                                            To CAPE TOWN, SAF

(1) James Richard KITTO b. 7 Nov 1879 Porthleven, Sithney, Con, Eng. (s/o KITTO & JACKA in GRO Q4 1879 #5c/181 Helston & s/o James John (1854) & Elizabeth of Porthleven in census) m. 1903 Chs, Eng. (Q3 1903 #8a/1096 Birkengead Chs) d. 1971 Con, Eng (Q3 1971 #7a/113 Kerrier) aged 92 years, biog: son (1) in 1881, scholar (11) in 1891, net manufacturer (21) at home in 1901, net manufacturer (31) in Porthleven in 1911, left Southampton on 30 Nov 1923, arr 17 Dec 1923 in Cape Town on the "RMS. Edinburgh Castle" net manufacturer in Porthleven in 1932, net manufacturer (60) in 1939.

(Cape Times Ships Passenger Lists - 19 Dec 1923 - Kitto JR, Kitto Miss GJ, Kitto Miss PK).   m/to

Harriet Gertrude DORE b. 1879 Newport, IOW, Eng. d. 1913 Con, Eng. (Q1 1913 #5c/229 Helston & Card 586 SOG) aged 34 years, biog: visitor to KITTO family (21) in 1901, wife (31) in 1911

 

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Gertrude Joan KITTO b. 1904 Con, Eng. (d/o KITTO & DORE in GRO Q2 1904 #5c/147 Helston) m. 1929 Con, Eng. (Q2 1929 #5c/210 St Austell).    m/to

Ernest H JONES b. cc1904

 

2.

Peggy Kattrine Temple KITTO b. 1907 Con, Eng. (d/o KITTO & DORE in GRO Q3 1907 #5c/143 Helston) m. 1934 Con, Eng. (Q3 1934 #5c/189 St Austell) d. 1944 Cape Town, SAF (estate papers).    m/to

Arthur F FISH event 1944 Transvaal, SAF

 

 

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Of SURREY LONDON family                                    In Johannesburg, SAF

William H KITTO b. 24 Jul 1914 Islington, Lon, Eng. (s/o KITTO & BIRCHARD in GRO Q3 1914 #1b/360 Islington), m. 1934 Lon, Eng. (Q2 1934 #1b/467 Islington) d. c1963 South Africa. Biog: milk rounds man (25) in 1939.   m/to

Edith M COOK b. 28 May 1912 Eng. biog: chocolate packer (27) in 1939

 

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Ronald W KITTO b. 1934 Lon, Eng. (s/o KITTO & COOK in Q3 1934 #1b/238 Islington) m. 1962 Mdx, Eng. (Q1 1962 #5f/1486 Wood Green Mdx).   m/to

Mary L SAMMS b. cc1934 Eng.

 

 

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Paul Henry KITTO b. 1965 Johannesburg, S Africa

 

 

B.

Ruth Anne KITTO b. 1967 Johannesburg, S Africa

 

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2.

Shirley A KITTO b. 1935 Lon, Eng. (d/o KITTO & COOK in Q4 1935 #1b/241 Islington) likely m. 1957 (Q1 1957 #7a/331 St Austell).   m/to

Alfred B COPP b. cc1935 Eng.

 

 

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Of unknown origins                                                   In Rhodesia and SAF

Petrus Johannes KITTO b. 30 May 1951 Rhodesia m. c1970 d. 20 Oct 1999 Johannesburg, SAF (ref: Geni online) aged 58 years of heart attack.    m/to

private VREY b. cc1951 (d/o Andries Gottlieb VREY, ref: Geni online)

 

1.

private male KITTO b. c1970 m/to

Miss LAMPRECHT b. cc1970 – 2 children

 

2.

private male KITTO b. c1970 m/to

Miss VIVIERS / YATES b. cc1970 – 4 children

 

3.

Patricia Juanita KITTO b. 1973 m/to

Johannes BUCHLING b. cc1973 deceased  – 2 children

A. Juan DEWET (nee BUCHLING) b. 1996

B. Magdalene Maria DEWET (nee BUCHLING) b. 1998

 

4.

private female KITTO b. c1975 m/to

Mr HATTINGH b. cc1975 – 1 child

 

5.

Gerald Peter KITTO b. c1978 m/to

Ms BRUMMER b. cc1978 – 2 children

 

Sister of Petrus

Daphne KITTO BOSHOF b. c1950 deceased

 

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Miscellaneous.

 

From TRURO

William Francis KITTO b. 1875 Con, Eng. m. 1900 Con, Eng. (Q3 1900 #5c/200 Truro)

A KITTO b. c1875 d. 1899 Boer War, bd. Okiep Cemetery, South Africa.  (A KITTO - Rand Rifles - SAF Roll of Honour, list of the fallen 1900 page 667)

 

Rand Rifles

James KITTO b. pte #28865 Rand Rifles, South Africa. 

Alfred KITTO b. pte #28866 Rand Rifles, South Africa. 

Thomas Arthur KITTO b. pte #28568 Rand Rifles, South Africa. 

 

 

Cardally Rose RUNDALL (geb KITTO) event 1944 Transvaal, SAF,

geb KITTO - does GEB mean born in Africaans

 

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Richard Kitto RICHARDS b. 1883 Methleigh, Con, Eng. m. 1910 Con, Eng. (Q3 1910 #5c/121 Bodmin) d. 1911 Transvaal, SAF     m/to

Bessie BURT b. cc1883 Con, Eng. (surviving her spouse in 1911 SAF)

Richard Kitto Richards, born 1883, was the son of Joseph John Richards and Mary Elizabeth Waters of Methleigh. Joseph John was the son of Richard Kitto Richards, son of William and Thomasin Richards of Methleigh. William was the son of Jane KITTO & John RICHARDS of Breage.

Didn't last very long in South Africa, did he.  I wonder if Bessie returned to Cornwall. (From Sonia Grogono)

 

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Helena Elizabeth Maria KITTO b. d. 1921 Transvaal, SAF

William MADDEN b. (surviving his spouse in 1921 SAF)

 

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Henry KITTO b. d. 1966 Transvaal, SAF

Gertrude Emile PELSER b. (surviving her spouse in 1966 SAF)

 

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Daphne Christina KITTO b. (surviving her spouse in 1967 SAF)

Wynand Frederik BOSHOFF b. d. 1967 Transvaal, SAF

 

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Lucie Margaret Kitto LUKE b. event illiquid case 1945 Cape Town, SAF

Francis Murray THOMPSON b. spouse in 1945 Cape Town, SAF

 

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Adela Caroline Kitto THOMPSON b. d. 1969 Transvaal, SAF

Edmund Anthony Duke SOUTHBY b. (surviving his spouse in 1969 SAF)

 

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Charles Kitto ALLEN b. Johannesburg, Transvaal, SAF d. 1969 Pietermaritzburg, SAF.

Elizabeth BEHN (nee BROOMFIELD) b. (surviving her spouse in 1969 SAF)

 

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William Frederick John KITTO event 1976 Transvaal, SAF, unmarried

 

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William James KITTO b. divorce 1948 Transvaal, SAF

Eileen Gladys HOWARTH b. (illiquid case)

 

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Olwen Lesley KITTO b. c1920 m. 17 Aug 1946 Port Shepstone, Natal. (illiquid case), divorce 1963 Transvaal, SAF

Ronald Richard STEWART likely b. 23 May 1922

 

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Gladys Mons KITTO b. d. 1942 Transvaal, SAF

John Francis Thomas JAMES b. (surviving his spouse in 1942 SAF)

 

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Peggy Joan KITTO b. event illiquid case 1951 Cape Town, SAF.

Stephen Andrew GRUNDELING b. spouse in 1951 SAF)

                                                                       

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William (Will) KITTO event 1944 Transvaal, SAF, unmarried

b. 1886 Perranuthnoe, Con, Eng. (s/o KITTO & TREVASKIS in GRO Q3 1886 #5c/260 Penzance) d. 8 Jun 1944 Johannesburg, SAF. (The Cornishman on 3 Aug 1944) aged 57 years, biog: cattleman on farm (14) at home in 1901

KITTO – on June 8 1944, at Johannesburg South Africa, William, the only son of William Kitto and the late Catherine Kitto of Trevean, Perranuthnoe, also beloved brother of Nancy, Kate Julie, Jane, Win and Bet, aged 57 years (The Cornishman 3 Aug 1944)

 

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Lester Allan KITTO b. 6 Aug 1943 Durban, SAF. d. 4 Jul 1994 SAF (Geni online)

Joanne GRAY b. cc1943

 

1.

Greg KITTO b. c1960’s biog: surf-ski organiser on facebook

 

2.

Steven KITTO b. c1960’s

 

Event 1978 Durban, SAF, illiquid case against Dugson Clothing Co

On class roll for Class of 1960 Durban High School we page – ie. born c1943

Listed in South African death Notices born 1943 (paid access required “@identitynumber.org”)

Durban Prep High School entry 1952 - list of International Representation for Life Saving in 1967

Mentioned in Durban Surf LS Club history online.

 

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Thomas John Merrifield KITTOW event 1956 SAF, illiquid case

Eleanor Elizabeth Endean FITZMAURICE spouse 1956.

 

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Russell KITTO event 2001 Pretoria Boys School, Mr Russell KITTO retires from the Classroom (school newsletter 7 Dec 2001)

 

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Laureen Ruth KITTO event 1970 SAF, illiquid case, restitution of conjugal rights (NA SAF)    m/to

Anthony William BELL event 1970

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-----Original Message-----
From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of isabelj@talktalk.net
Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:02
To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] - Ancestors in South Africa.

 

I am about to eat my words when a few days ago, I complained that the South African records were not organised along the same lines as our National Archives - i.e. that you couldn't order and pay with a credit

card to receive documents of interest as you could with the National Archives in London.  I have just done that through Ancestor.co.za, and on the payment of R50.00 (less than £4) have just received the document

that I was searching for.  The service, was quick, reasonable and Nicola (who serviced my request) was just great.  So South African documents are available, quickly and won't break the bank.  Alas, I have still to find my ancestors on any shipping/passenger list, but there is always hope.  Isabel (West Briton Transcribers).

 

-----Original Message-----
From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John CARBIS
Sent: Friday, 24 October 2008 20:16
To: Yvonne Bowers; Cornish GEN; CORNISH@rootsweb.com
Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] CORNISH PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE LEFT A LEGACY IN SOUTHAFRICA

 

 

Good afternoon et al.

 

I trust that the following is self-explanatory and, have copied here as many have a problem in opening attachments from the VISTA OS that I am currently using.

 

CORNISH PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE LEFT A LEGACY IN SOUTH AFRICA

This project was prompted by the realisation that there are numerous sources

for information and data on and about the Cornish in South Africa. The

problem, if there is one, is that quite a lot of it is poorly indexed

if indeed, indexed at all; thus, making the finding of particular individuals

just that much more laborious.

 

My intention is to provide a series of Indexes, with each Index being contained within its own source chapter. Where it is sensible, I have allowed two or three lines of anecdotal history or other comments relative to that individual. Thus, by reference to one or more chapters it is possible have both a confirmation of an individual and the relevant sources from which that material had been gathered.

 

So far, I have nearly two thousand names listed in a number of chapters. The National Archives and Sue MacKay have granted permission to use the transcribed 'Log and Muster Roll of the 1820 Settlers'. Ann Dawe has given permission to abstract names etc., from Richards book 'Cornish Pioneers in South Africa' Gill

Rifaat, has allowed me the use of her material in one chapter and, where others with only one or two items of interest, this are being incorporated within this chapter with suitable 'footnotes’ acknowledging the individual sources. Juliet JENKIN of the 'Cornish Global Migration Program' in Redruth has said that she would assist in compiling a list of migrants to South Africa; how extensive this will turn out to be I, as yet do not know, but whatever size, it will certainly be of interest. Unfortunately the copyright holders of Dickason's book have not been so liberal. Bill CURNOW, has posted a twelve page package of some hundred or so, CURNOW related persons.

 

Because there were a large number of Cornish, both volunteers from Cornwall and

from South Africa itself, serving during the Boer War, there is scope to include brief details, such as the rather maligned General Buller, Emily Hobhouse and perhaps include one or two others of note; also subject matter such as 'phthisis' .

 

That then is were I am proposing to go with this. I would be most grateful for any lists of names, small or large; single names, with or with out any anecdotal notes. Or alternatively contacts of Cornish who may have a vested interest in their Cornish/South African connection.

 

To each group or single entry, there will be appended all due acknowledgement as to the source from which it was derived.

 

Lastly, rather than clog up the Cornish sites, would you please consider replying to me 'off list'. Thanking you in anticipation.

 

Kind regards,  John

John C CARBIS

john in scarlet at chelsea

Researching anybody and everything to do and/or connected with the CARBIS surname in any form.

The CARBIS history site; http://carbis-society.org

GOON member 2772

CFHS member 7203

 

From: ybowers@gmail.com

To: john_carbis@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Permission

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:25:50 -0700

John, this is a fine topic to post.

Yvonne BowersListmom/WebmomCORNISH, CORNISH-GEN, CA-CORNISHhttp://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/cornishlib/cornishlib.htmOn Oct 21, 2008, at 10:42 PM, John CARBIS wrote: CORNISH PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE LEFT A LEGACY IN SOUTH AFRICA